For walking around I use the main camera strap and have done for years, but this can take its toll on the old shoulders. So I've been recently eyeing up those clips you can attach to rucksacks to just slot the camera on and off when you need it. That and a wrist strap would probably work for me.
i understand and i know that people are different and have different needs and preferences. also i accept this but if i want to be a cinic smart ass, i'm asking: is the rucksack not on the same shoulders? 😊
i know, this apply to me as well: when i'm going in the city (let's say) i have my bag/purse on my shoulder and in the bag is a camera with no strap.
Ah yes, ok getting my old work head on, the rucksack is on the same shoulders but it has a hip belt that supports all of the weight and so the shoulders and the spine don't suffer anywhere near so much. 😊
I've also thought about one of those hip bags but now I'm going down that old classic of never finding the right camera bag...and that discussion could go on a long time!😂
I have on of those clips and it doesn’t really take the weight off, but it shifts slightly which can be a welcome change on longer hikes. And the camera is faster available than tucked away in the bagback. I think it doesn’t hurt to have one…
They hang over your shoulder, but my camera feels so much lighter when it’s on that strip. I love mine. But it is a bit of a pain when you are in the mountains…
Thanks for the feedback on those bag clips Susanne, that's really helpful to know - I might give one a try. 😊I've seen the Sun-sniper straps but not this one with the suspension on it - I'll have to try one out next time I'm near local stockists. I think it's quite hard to find things like camera straps and camera bags that really suit us ergonomically - every person is so different and I have got distinctly dodgy shoulders after years of carrying heavy cameras! 😁
I will typically have a strap of some kind on my camera but this is normally a wrist strap, as I prefer to have my camera in hand, although I see you’ve excluded those at this point.
Events aside, where I’ll typically be rocking a dual camera strap/harness system for the reasons you mention, I rarely use a full neck strap. I do have some shorter ones I use on my smaller cameras but these will typically be wrapped around my wrist rather than neck, and only use it as intended when I need both hands for something.
I’ve dropped my camera before (thinking the strap was around my neck but it wasn’t). I am very, very careful with my camera and always use the neck strap. Just cause I am a klutz who can’t afford another camera drop.
It really depends on the camera and the circumstances. My Ricoh is usually hidden in a small shoulder bag or I have it in my coatpocket if it’s colder and I wear a jacket/coat. My 35mm camera has a “pretty” strap, so I like using that with the 35mm. Unless I don’t want to have my camera to be seen all the time. My DSLR is a whole different story: when I have a bagback with me it’s either in there or on the shoulder strap with a clip. WhenI don’t have a bagback, I will carry it on a sling strap. Does that answer your question? 🤣
I hate neck straps. They seem to get in my way and hamper my freedom of movement. The only exception was when I was doing weddings with more than one camera because it was necessary to carry the cameras around without an assistant.
Even with large camera setups (e.g. 1DX + 24-105ISL or 5D + 100-400ISL) I don't use neck straps. I just carry the camera in my hand by the lens.
When I get a new camera, the first thing I do is remove the original strap and replace it with a wrist strap. Wrist straps are good enough for safety and they don't tie the camera to my upper body.
I tend to swap between a neck and wrist strap, depending on what I'm doing or what my current mood is. I use SmallRig because they're decent quality and have handy clips so I can swap straps really easily.
The only time I don't use straps is when I'm doing artefact photography, as the camera's on a tripod and a strap just gets in the way ...
I'm also a fan of wrist straps. For my RX100 I use a wrist strap from a Nintendo Wii controller on the assumption that if its tough enough to cope with that then it can easily hold my camera. I also use the Peak Performance wrist strap. In the past when I did use a full neck/shoulder strap as well this made it simple to switch between different straps as needed.
For my Nikon I have a Peak Design neck/shoulder strap that allows the camera to hang “lens down”. I find that much easier to carry and I like the ease of being able to change straps/configurations with the PD system. I also have a hand strap for it (it goes across the back of the hand rather than around the wrist). The one problem with that is I find I am more prone to accidentally pushing the shutter when out walking (great for unintentional camera movement shots). For my small Olympus DSLR I use a small wrist strap or nothing at all.
I have a very small camera. Without a strap. It only is in my way. I do like a big pocket in my coat to put it in when I'm walking and not taking pictures.
I NEVER use a camera strap. I don’t even bother taking them out of the box if I get a new camera. A Peak Design plate is Allen keyed onto the bottom of the camera, which fits both my tripod and rucksack clip. Strap would just get in the road and get on my nerves!
For street photography and general walking-around photo shoots, I don't like to advertise the fact that I'm carrying an expensive camera. And so instead of shoulder straps, I conceal my camera in a relatively small camera bag.
These days, so few people use camera cameras (as opposed to phone cameras) for everyday shooting that I suspect most casual observers don't even realize my camera bag is a bag for cameras!
I do, however, attach (removable) Peak Design wrist straps to my camera to minimize the risk of dropping one.
After trying NUMEROUS camera bags, I've come to rely on the Tenba 9" slim messenger bag. For my purposes, it's the perfect size and shape. Even my bulky medium-format Fujifilm camera fits in it. Plus it features near-silent Velcro (Tenba's "Whisper Hook Closure"). I can quickly and almost silently open the bag and whip out my camera when I see something photo-worthy!
I use an over-the-shoulder strap most of the time primarily because I move around a lot while shooting sports action. It's better than a neck strap, but it definitely gets in the way at times and I find myself going strapless with more frequency lately.
Necessary evil? I’m using smaller cameras these days (x100, GFX100RF, xT5 w/ small zoom) and i like that rounded/rope style strap with the 100RF so much i bought a similar one for the x100. I wear these cameras crossbody so its easy to pull up to my eye but stays close while hiking or on a bike.
There was a time where I didn’t use a strap w/ big SLRs, vertical grip, zooms, etc. In my college days (early 90s) the hot strap tech was OpTech with the spongy strap that absorbed some weight, that was my gold standard for ages. I also had a classic Domke bag that i would shoulder and forgo the strap altogether, aping the AP stringers i knew, 3 bodies and all primes! Weighed like 50lbs, it was crippling.
I’m a commercial still life / food photographer by trade, so my GFX cameras have the ultimate strap at work: FOBA camera stands, the gold standard in camera support and my absolute favorite tool in the studio.
Almost always I've got a bag with a strap, but not the camera inside it. There are exceptions.
Either way though, one of the greatest discoveries I've EVER made in photography is the OpTech Strap, available for cameras, camera bags, and larger objects. It reduces the strain on your neck/back/shoulder by... 75%, maybe??? These products are incredible. Neoprene stretch material, acts like a shock absorber, makes whatever you carry feel a lot lighter, and comfortable to carry for many miles and many hours.
Besides the camera itself, these straps are the most important tool I own. This is not an exaggeration.
For walking around I use the main camera strap and have done for years, but this can take its toll on the old shoulders. So I've been recently eyeing up those clips you can attach to rucksacks to just slot the camera on and off when you need it. That and a wrist strap would probably work for me.
i understand and i know that people are different and have different needs and preferences. also i accept this but if i want to be a cinic smart ass, i'm asking: is the rucksack not on the same shoulders? 😊
i know, this apply to me as well: when i'm going in the city (let's say) i have my bag/purse on my shoulder and in the bag is a camera with no strap.
Ah yes, ok getting my old work head on, the rucksack is on the same shoulders but it has a hip belt that supports all of the weight and so the shoulders and the spine don't suffer anywhere near so much. 😊
I've also thought about one of those hip bags but now I'm going down that old classic of never finding the right camera bag...and that discussion could go on a long time!😂
I have on of those clips and it doesn’t really take the weight off, but it shifts slightly which can be a welcome change on longer hikes. And the camera is faster available than tucked away in the bagback. I think it doesn’t hurt to have one…
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They hang over your shoulder, but my camera feels so much lighter when it’s on that strip. I love mine. But it is a bit of a pain when you are in the mountains…
Thanks for the feedback on those bag clips Susanne, that's really helpful to know - I might give one a try. 😊I've seen the Sun-sniper straps but not this one with the suspension on it - I'll have to try one out next time I'm near local stockists. I think it's quite hard to find things like camera straps and camera bags that really suit us ergonomically - every person is so different and I have got distinctly dodgy shoulders after years of carrying heavy cameras! 😁
Ah you are opening a can of worms here 😁
I will typically have a strap of some kind on my camera but this is normally a wrist strap, as I prefer to have my camera in hand, although I see you’ve excluded those at this point.
Events aside, where I’ll typically be rocking a dual camera strap/harness system for the reasons you mention, I rarely use a full neck strap. I do have some shorter ones I use on my smaller cameras but these will typically be wrapped around my wrist rather than neck, and only use it as intended when I need both hands for something.
I’ve dropped my camera before (thinking the strap was around my neck but it wasn’t). I am very, very careful with my camera and always use the neck strap. Just cause I am a klutz who can’t afford another camera drop.
It really depends on the camera and the circumstances. My Ricoh is usually hidden in a small shoulder bag or I have it in my coatpocket if it’s colder and I wear a jacket/coat. My 35mm camera has a “pretty” strap, so I like using that with the 35mm. Unless I don’t want to have my camera to be seen all the time. My DSLR is a whole different story: when I have a bagback with me it’s either in there or on the shoulder strap with a clip. WhenI don’t have a bagback, I will carry it on a sling strap. Does that answer your question? 🤣
I hate neck straps. They seem to get in my way and hamper my freedom of movement. The only exception was when I was doing weddings with more than one camera because it was necessary to carry the cameras around without an assistant.
Even with large camera setups (e.g. 1DX + 24-105ISL or 5D + 100-400ISL) I don't use neck straps. I just carry the camera in my hand by the lens.
When I get a new camera, the first thing I do is remove the original strap and replace it with a wrist strap. Wrist straps are good enough for safety and they don't tie the camera to my upper body.
I rotate between a neck strap, a wrist strap, and a clip on my backpack strap.
I do exactly the same. Just recently made a diy set of backpack straps. So much easier than a neck strap when you are carrying a backpack.
I tend to swap between a neck and wrist strap, depending on what I'm doing or what my current mood is. I use SmallRig because they're decent quality and have handy clips so I can swap straps really easily.
The only time I don't use straps is when I'm doing artefact photography, as the camera's on a tripod and a strap just gets in the way ...
I'm also a fan of wrist straps. For my RX100 I use a wrist strap from a Nintendo Wii controller on the assumption that if its tough enough to cope with that then it can easily hold my camera. I also use the Peak Performance wrist strap. In the past when I did use a full neck/shoulder strap as well this made it simple to switch between different straps as needed.
For my Nikon I have a Peak Design neck/shoulder strap that allows the camera to hang “lens down”. I find that much easier to carry and I like the ease of being able to change straps/configurations with the PD system. I also have a hand strap for it (it goes across the back of the hand rather than around the wrist). The one problem with that is I find I am more prone to accidentally pushing the shutter when out walking (great for unintentional camera movement shots). For my small Olympus DSLR I use a small wrist strap or nothing at all.
I have a very small camera. Without a strap. It only is in my way. I do like a big pocket in my coat to put it in when I'm walking and not taking pictures.
I NEVER use a camera strap. I don’t even bother taking them out of the box if I get a new camera. A Peak Design plate is Allen keyed onto the bottom of the camera, which fits both my tripod and rucksack clip. Strap would just get in the road and get on my nerves!
For street photography and general walking-around photo shoots, I don't like to advertise the fact that I'm carrying an expensive camera. And so instead of shoulder straps, I conceal my camera in a relatively small camera bag.
These days, so few people use camera cameras (as opposed to phone cameras) for everyday shooting that I suspect most casual observers don't even realize my camera bag is a bag for cameras!
I do, however, attach (removable) Peak Design wrist straps to my camera to minimize the risk of dropping one.
After trying NUMEROUS camera bags, I've come to rely on the Tenba 9" slim messenger bag. For my purposes, it's the perfect size and shape. Even my bulky medium-format Fujifilm camera fits in it. Plus it features near-silent Velcro (Tenba's "Whisper Hook Closure"). I can quickly and almost silently open the bag and whip out my camera when I see something photo-worthy!
I use an over-the-shoulder strap most of the time primarily because I move around a lot while shooting sports action. It's better than a neck strap, but it definitely gets in the way at times and I find myself going strapless with more frequency lately.
Necessary evil? I’m using smaller cameras these days (x100, GFX100RF, xT5 w/ small zoom) and i like that rounded/rope style strap with the 100RF so much i bought a similar one for the x100. I wear these cameras crossbody so its easy to pull up to my eye but stays close while hiking or on a bike.
There was a time where I didn’t use a strap w/ big SLRs, vertical grip, zooms, etc. In my college days (early 90s) the hot strap tech was OpTech with the spongy strap that absorbed some weight, that was my gold standard for ages. I also had a classic Domke bag that i would shoulder and forgo the strap altogether, aping the AP stringers i knew, 3 bodies and all primes! Weighed like 50lbs, it was crippling.
I’m a commercial still life / food photographer by trade, so my GFX cameras have the ultimate strap at work: FOBA camera stands, the gold standard in camera support and my absolute favorite tool in the studio.
When I'm working, I don't like having a camera strap around my neck or shoulder. I like to have freedom in my movement.
When I'm shooting for myself, I tend to use smaller, lighter cameras so a long strap is practical.
Almost always I've got a bag with a strap, but not the camera inside it. There are exceptions.
Either way though, one of the greatest discoveries I've EVER made in photography is the OpTech Strap, available for cameras, camera bags, and larger objects. It reduces the strain on your neck/back/shoulder by... 75%, maybe??? These products are incredible. Neoprene stretch material, acts like a shock absorber, makes whatever you carry feel a lot lighter, and comfortable to carry for many miles and many hours.
Besides the camera itself, these straps are the most important tool I own. This is not an exaggeration.
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